Hi,

We are a small webbhosting provider that are today running a Linux
cluster with apache2/suphp, on 2 webbfronts.
We have about 1200 different customers on this system.

How can we deploy php-fpm instead of suphp? We need to isolate every
php to be runned as the customers user.

Best Regards
Magnus

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:21 PM, MagnusVMI <ml@vmi.se> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are a small webbhosting provider that are today running a Linux
> cluster with apache2/suphp, on 2 webbfronts.
> We have about 1200 different customers on this system.
>
> How can we deploy php-fpm instead of suphp? We need to isolate every
> php to be runned as the customers user.

I think the only option is setting each pool with one child (or more)
to start, because one has to be available per pool minimum, and then
setting maximums and spares as you wish.

2010/8/26 MagnusVMI <ml@vmi.se>:
> Hi,
>
> We are a small webbhosting provider that are today running a Linux
> cluster with apache2/suphp, on 2 webbfronts.
> We have about 1200 different customers on this system.
>
> How can we deploy php-fpm instead of suphp? We need to isolate every
> php to be runned as the customers user.

Actually there is no such solution. You'll have to set at least on
process per custommer which will lead to a minimum of 1200 processes
for nothing which is crap :/

I'm working (with the help of the guy who created the bug report) on a
new process manager. It's called "ondemand" and it'll permit to have 0
children for a pool. When a request is coming, the child process is
forked. It's the solution for cases like yours. But this is still
alpha and we have a little problem with the current version (it
consumes 100% cpu when requests are flooding FPM)

You can see for more details: http://bugs.php.net/52569

If you have time to beta test the feature, I can add your email in the
conversation I have with mark.

++ Jerome
>
> Best Regards
> Magnus
>

Cool! Some people on IRC had asked about anything new in FPM. Do you keep a blog, wiki or roadmap anywhere on your ideas or just some bugs/feature requests in the PHP tracker?

I think that the ondemand idea is the holy grail if you can pull it off. I think it should still keep it under the fpm umbrella :)

On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Jérôme Loyet <ml@fatbsd.com> wrote:

> 2010/8/26 MagnusVMI <ml@vmi.se>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are a small webbhosting provider that are today running a Linux
>> cluster with apache2/suphp, on 2 webbfronts.
>> We have about 1200 different customers on this system.
>>
>> How can we deploy php-fpm instead of suphp? We need to isolate every
>> php to be runned as the customers user.
>
> Actually there is no such solution. You'll have to set at least on
> process per custommer which will lead to a minimum of 1200 processes
> for nothing which is crap :/
>
> I'm working (with the help of the guy who created the bug report) on a
> new process manager. It's called "ondemand" and it'll permit to have 0
> children for a pool. When a request is coming, the child process is
> forked. It's the solution for cases like yours. But this is still
> alpha and we have a little problem with the current version (it
> consumes 100% cpu when requests are flooding FPM)
>
> You can see for more details: http://bugs.php.net/52569
>
> If you have time to beta test the feature, I can add your email in the
> conversation I have with mark.
>
> ++ Jerome
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Magnus
>>

2010/8/26 Michael Shadle <mike503@gmail.com>:
> Cool! Some people on IRC had asked about anything new in FPM. Do you keep a blog, wiki or roadmap anywhere on your ideas or just some bugs/feature requests in the PHP tracker?

no wiki, no blog, no roadmap. You have the bugtracker, when I have
ideas I'm writting a new feature request on the bug tracker. It's been
made for this, no need for other kind of propaganda tools.

++ Jerome

>
> I think that the ondemand idea is the holy grail if you can pull it off. I think it should still keep it under the fpm umbrella :)
>
> On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Jérôme Loyet <ml@fatbsd.com> wrote:
>
>> 2010/8/26 MagnusVMI <ml@vmi.se>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We are a small webbhosting provider that are today running a Linux
>>> cluster with apache2/suphp, on 2 webbfronts.
>>> We have about 1200 different customers on this system.
>>>
>>> How can we deploy php-fpm instead of suphp? We need to isolate every
>>> php to be runned as the customers user.
>>
>> Actually there is no such solution. You'll have to set at least on
>> process per custommer which will lead to a minimum of 1200 processes
>> for nothing which is crap :/
>>
>> I'm working (with the help of the guy who created the bug report) on a
>> new process manager. It's called "ondemand" and it'll permit to have 0
>> children for a pool. When a request is coming, the child process is
>> forked. It's the solution for cases like yours. But this is still
>> alpha and we have a little problem with the current version (it
>> consumes 100% cpu when requests are flooding FPM)
>>
>> You can see for more details: http://bugs.php.net/52569
>>
>> If you have time to beta test the feature, I can add your email in the
>> conversation I have with mark.
>>
>> ++ Jerome
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> Magnus
>>>
>

+1 for ondemand feature.

Thank you for your work!

Kind regards!

2010/8/26 Jérôme Loyet <ml@fatbsd.com>

> 2010/8/26 Michael Shadle <mike503@gmail.com>:
> > Cool! Some people on IRC had asked about anything new in FPM. Do you keep
> a blog, wiki or roadmap anywhere on your ideas or just some bugs/feature
> requests in the PHP tracker?
>
> no wiki, no blog, no roadmap. You have the bugtracker, when I have
> ideas I'm writting a new feature request on the bug tracker. It's been
> made for this, no need for other kind of propaganda tools.
>
> ++ Jerome
>
> >
> > I think that the ondemand idea is the holy grail if you can pull it off..
> I think it should still keep it under the fpm umbrella :)
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Jérôme Loyet <ml@fatbsd.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 2010/8/26 MagnusVMI <ml@vmi.se>:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We are a small webbhosting provider that are today running a Linux
> >>> cluster with apache2/suphp, on 2 webbfronts.
> >>> We have about 1200 different customers on this system.
> >>>
> >>> How can we deploy php-fpm instead of suphp? We need to isolate every
> >>> php to be runned as the customers user.
> >>
> >> Actually there is no such solution. You'll have to set at least on
> >> process per custommer which will lead to a minimum of 1200 processes
> >> for nothing which is crap :/
> >>
> >> I'm working (with the help of the guy who created the bug report) on a
> >> new process manager. It's called "ondemand" and it'll permit to have 0
> >> children for a pool. When a request is coming, the child process is
> >> forked. It's the solution for cases like yours. But this is still
> >> alpha and we have a little problem with the current version (it
> >> consumes 100% cpu when requests are flooding FPM)
> >>
> >> You can see for more details: http://bugs.php.net/52569
> >>
> >> If you have time to beta test the feature, I can add your email in the
> >> conversation I have with mark.
> >>
> >> ++ Jerome
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards
> >>> Magnus
> >>>
> >
>



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2010/8/27 Thomas Fritz <fritztho@gmail.com>:
> +1 for ondemand feature.
> Thank you for your work!
> Kind regards!

we'll come with a beta patchs soon I think.

++ Jerome

>
> 2010/8/26 Jérôme Loyet <ml@fatbsd.com>
>>
>> 2010/8/26 Michael Shadle <mike503@gmail.com>:
>> > Cool! Some people on IRC had asked about anything new in FPM. Do you
>> > keep a blog, wiki or roadmap anywhere on your ideas or just some
>> > bugs/feature requests in the PHP tracker?
>>
>> no wiki, no blog, no roadmap. You have the bugtracker, when I have
>> ideas I'm writting a new feature request on the bug tracker. It's been
>> made for this, no need for other kind of propaganda tools.
>>
>> ++ Jerome
>>
>> >
>> > I think that the ondemand idea is the holy grail if you can pull it off.
>> > I think it should still keep it under the fpm umbrella :)
>> >
>> > On Aug 26, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Jérôme Loyet <ml@fatbsd.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> 2010/8/26 MagnusVMI <ml@vmi.se>:
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> We are a small webbhosting provider that are today running a Linux
>> >>> cluster with apache2/suphp, on 2 webbfronts.
>> >>> We have about 1200 different customers on this system.
>> >>>
>> >>> How can we deploy php-fpm instead of suphp? We need to isolate every
>> >>> php to be runned as the customers user.
>> >>
>> >> Actually there is no such solution. You'll have to set at least on
>> >> process per custommer which will lead to a minimum of 1200 processes
>> >> for nothing which is crap :/
>> >>
>> >> I'm working (with the help of the guy who created the bug report) on a
>> >> new process manager. It's called "ondemand" and it'll permit to have 0
>> >> children for a pool. When a request is coming, the child process is
>> >> forked. It's the solution for cases like yours. But this is still
>> >> alpha and we have a little problem with the current version (it
>> >> consumes 100% cpu when requests are flooding FPM)
>> >>
>> >> You can see for more details: http://bugs.php.net/52569
>> >>
>> >> If you have time to beta test the feature, I can add your email in the
>> >> conversation I have with mark.
>> >>
>> >> ++ Jerome
>> >>>
>> >>> Best Regards
>> >>> Magnus
>> >>>
>> >
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> ---
> Thomas FRITZ
> web http://fritzthomas.com
> twitter http://twitter.com/thomasf
>