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Re: Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames

Aleksandr Kupriyanov
November 17, 2016 01:36PM
De facto, some "big guys" already use underscores in their host names:

sasha@kernel.home:~$ host cow_fb_cdn0-a.akamaihd.net
cow_fb_cdn0-a.akamaihd.net is an alias for
cow_fb_cdn0-a.akamaihd.net.edgesuite.net.
cow_fb_cdn0-a.akamaihd.net.edgesuite.net is an alias for a1877.g.akamai.net.
a1877.g.akamai.net has address 104.73.160.114
a1877.g.akamai.net has address 104.73.160.64
sasha@kernel.home:~$


On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Ward <teward@dark-net.net> wrote:

> Correct me if I am wrong but the discussion of underscores in DNS does not
> apply to hostnames. The discussion referenced states as such, and only
> touches on underscores as a part of DNS attributes and internals, not as
> part of hostnames. It even says as such that hostnames are *not permitted*
> to have underscores.
>
> By extension of that, should not the Host header should be a hostname or a
> requested hostname and therefore obey the requirements for a Hostname at
> the bare minimum?
>
>
> *Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typos, as they are likely to
> happen by accident.*
>
> > On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:10, Maxim Dounin <mdounin@mdounin.ru> wrote:
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 06:36:12PM -0600, Aleksandr Kupriyanov wrote:
> >>
> >> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.instartlogic.
> com%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc4puDXYOgyifEWrSJrJIfW1sViFg>
> >
> >> # HG changeset patch
> >> # User Aleksandr Kupriyanov <sasha@instartlogic.com>
> >> # Date 1479340749 21600
> >> # Node ID af947b854971993f318417c70c3818147b320a0d
> >> # Parent 6a26016e9a138102798a7ec3e74747fbd6018f82
> >> Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames
> >>
> >> Two equivalent requests generate different responses:
> >>
> >> 1. ---------------
> >> GET http://host_1.home/ HTTP/1.1
> >> Host: host_1.home
> >> ...
> >> HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
> >> Server: nginx/1.X.XX
> >> ------------------
> >>
> >> 2. ---------------
> >> GET / HTTP/1.1
> >> Host: host_1.home
> >> ...
> >> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> >> Server: nginx/1.X.XX
> >> ------------------
> >>
> >> To avoid that a new directive is proposed:
> >>
> >> Syntax: underscores_in_hostname on | off;
> >> Default: underscores_in_headers off;
> >> Context: http, server
> >>
> >> Enables or disables the use of underscores in host names of
> >> client request line.
> >>
> >> See a discussion about underscores in DNS here:
> >> http://domainkeys.sourceforge.net/underscore.html
> >
> > Shouldn't we just allow underscores in
> > ngx_http_parse_request_line() instead? It doesn't looks like
> > there are reasons to keep the test that strict.
> >
> > In case of underscores_in_headers there a clear security reason:
> > headers are exposed via the HTTP_* variables in CGI, and via
> > $http_* variables in nginx itself, and this makes headers with
> > underscores indistinguishable from ones with dash, and creates an
> > attack vector.
> >
> > I don't see such a problem with underscores in hostname when it's
> > passed via the request line - especially keeping in mind that we
> > don't enforce such a limitation via the Host header.
> >
> > --
> > Maxim Dounin
> > http://nginx.org/
> >
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Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames

Aleksandr Kupriyanov 726 November 16, 2016 07:38PM

Re: Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames

Maxim Dounin 469 November 17, 2016 12:12PM

Re: Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames

Aleksandr Kupriyanov 294 November 17, 2016 12:36PM

Re: Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames

Thomas Ward 330 November 17, 2016 01:22PM

Re: Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames

Aleksandr Kupriyanov 344 November 17, 2016 01:36PM

Re: Add directive to allow underscores in hostnames

Thomas Ward 370 November 17, 2016 02:26PM



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