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Re: SSL ciphers preference

Maxim Dounin
September 01, 2014 02:08PM
Hello!

On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 04:56:00PM +0200, B.R. wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I filled a (now closed, because erroneous) enhancement ticket:
> http://trac.nginx.org/nginx/ticket/619
>
> As it appears, the change I noticed in the SSl test did not result from my
> malformed ciphers list.
> Right about that.
>
> However, what is intriguing is the answer Maxim gave me on the second part
> of my proposal: the default activation of ssl_prefer_server_ciphers
> <http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/ngx_http_ssl_module.html#ssl_prefer_server_ciphers>
> .
>
> He saif that this option put to on made sense with a custome list but not
> with the default one.
>
> I confirm that the results of my tests changed. It was no because of the
> ciphers list, but it was due to that other change.
> Thus, the ciphers used by the emulated clients of the test changed
> following the activation of that option, allowing me to pass the 'Forward
> Secrecy' part of the test, resulting in an upgrade of my score from A- to A.
>
> I jsut checked it again, removing my buggy ciphers list and (de)activating
> de rprefer' option.
>
> If using that option with the default ciphers list was useless, what had
> that change an impact on the results of my test?

Switching on or off ssl_prefer_server_ciphers obviously may change
score as reported by SSL Labs, since it can (and likely will)
change ciphers negotiated in some cases. But it's usually not
a good idea to switch it on unless you understand the results and
have a good reason to do so.

By default, OpenSSL sorts ciphers per symmetric encryption
strength, and prefers ciphers with forward secrecy if strength is
identical. As a result you may get better forward secrecy support
if you'll switch on ssl_prefer_server_ciphers - or not, depending
on actual ciphers supported by clients. E.g., AES256-SHA will be
preferred over ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA, which is probably not what
you want.

Another example: DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA256 will be preferred over
ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256. On the other hand, you probably
don't want DHE to be used at all for performance reasons.

--
Maxim Dounin
http://nginx.org/

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Subject Author Posted

SSL ciphers preference

B.R. September 01, 2014 10:58AM

Re: SSL ciphers preference

Maxim Dounin September 01, 2014 02:08PM

Re: SSL ciphers preference

B.R. September 01, 2014 02:38PM



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