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Re: Bad performance of nginx with Tomcat vs. Apache with Tomcat

Chang Song
September 03, 2009 10:12PM
imcaptor.
Man, you are a lifesaver.

That changes everything. I build tomcat with apr native, and nginx
comes back alive and well!!

Nginx beats Apache by at least 10-20% and the response time better by
10-20%

I will have check other workloads as well, but nginx holds up pretty
well.

This is great, Thank you very much.

For those who uses Nginx - Tomcat setup, Http11Apr is A MUST!!


On Sep 3, 2009, at 7:57 PM, imcaptor wrote:

> You can use native Connector.
> Http11AprProtocol try again.
>
> 2009/9/3 Chang Song <changsong@me.com>
> Sometime ago, I posted an message about Nginx performance when
> paired with Tomcat.
> We recently did extensive in-house testing of various workload
> against Nginx with Tomcat vs Apache vs Tomcat.
>
> Apache wins hands down.
>
> Here's the basic setup
>
> 1. Nginx (2 proc/8192 connections) -> http/1.0 -> Tomcat (HTTP
> connector)
> 2. Apache (512 prefork) -> AJP -> Tomcat (AJP)
>
> Both KeepAlive off (we don't use KeepAlive due to L4 switch)
>
> The physical server is 2 core Intel Xeon, which is typical web
> server config here.
> We have three grinder 3.2 load generators.
> We tested 4K and 20K Tomcat simple HTML file, 20K simple HTML with
> intentional 10% 200ms
> sleep in Tomcat serving (emulate slow DB query), etc.
>
> Every single case, Apache wins by at least 10-15%.
> Throughput and response time.
> Nginx uses a bit less CPU cycles (10-20%), but it is not able drive
> Tomcat to 100% CPU.
>
> Here's my take on this performance problem.
>
> 1. Lack of AJP support, which is an optimized HTTP protocol
> First of all, this is a serious bottleneck.
>
> * AJP has much less communication overhead than HTTP
>
> 2. Lack of HTTP KeepAlive support for proxy
>
> * Lack of AJP may be compensated with HTTP keepalive support since
> there are
> at least twice the number of TIME_WAIT sockets (connection
> establishment mean time
> is at least twice - three times slower than that of Apache)
>
> 3. Lack of connection pooling
>
> * Ey-balancer makes things a bit easier, response times are
> stable, but still the same
> average TPS and response time.
>
> 4. There seems to be a huge bug in connection management code
>
> Two mix of transactions: 20K HTML serving and 8K HTML with
> intentional 200ms delay in Tomcat logic
>
> With Apache, 20K HTML serving took 36 ms on average while 8K HTML
> took 258 ms
> With Nginx, 20K HTML serving took 600 ms on average while 8K HTML
> took 817 ms
>
> I really cannot explain these difference. Not even TCP connection
> overhead or lack of AJP.
>
> My questions is "should I abandon nginx at this point"?
> I know nginx is great proxy and static file server but I cannot
> prove my point with Tomcat over and over again.
>
> Thank you
>
> Chang
>
>
>
>
>
>
> imcaptor
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